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Talk me out of the Diesel Colorado or Canyon...

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My current ride just popped over 100K miles and I am feeling like 10 years and 100K miles is about the time to start letting your eyes wander.

I priced out a nicely equipped Colorado with the Trail Boss package and it hit around $40K. That is a lot of dough for a little truck, but is it worth it? I really like the towing and gas mileage of the setup, but that horsepower rating scares me a little.

Has anyone driven the diesel? What are your thoughts about the power? I am coming from a quick sedan (WRX) and looking for a little bit of storage and towing in my life.
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I'm not even sure they are on dealer lots just yet?

I just did a search on cars.com and only two diesel Colorado's came up.

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/653777570/overview/

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/653583266/overview/
Haven't driven this Colorado yet. If you're looking for a truck for some light duty work (or no work at all) I think the Colorado should be on the top of your list. Great looks, great gas mileage, decent towing capacity is what makes this truck so awesome. 40K is pretty steep I would agree, especially when you get get a well equipped Silverado right around that price range (42-43k). Granted its not a diesel.
Haven't driven this Colorado yet. If you're looking for a truck for some light duty work (or no work at all) I think the Colorado should be on the top of your list. Great looks, great gas mileage, decent towing capacity is what makes this truck so awesome. 40K is pretty steep I would agree, especially when you get get a well equipped Silverado right around that price range (42-43k). Granted its not a diesel.
AGreed re no work comment. Why? Because GM doesn't WANT the truck to be used in a work or heavy duty usage type environment.

Why? Not sure, exactly. Opinion?
The "weak link" re these trucks HAS to be the transmission.
Why I am not buying one now (at least until/unless an 8 speed (Like DOdge Ram and every other truck manufacturer with a new truck offers), Preferably a MANUAL 6 speed, or at least a "regular" transmissionI can replace with some options BESIDES the local Stealership:)! I can't IMAGING anyone who knows mechanical things and understands what this transmission will cost to replace, would even CONSIDER buying this truck with the ONLY ooption (diesel anyway) being this one off, dealer and NEW only, replacement transmission that uses a proprietary device (antivibe dohickey)!!
Whats it gonna cost a buyer when they toast the tranny after loading a tune, or doing what many truck buyers/user/entheausiasts do, tow and haul, and the trans gets hot and dies or is mortally wounded. Warranty is denied (rightfully so, I admit) BUT no other option due to no other trans being suitable/available as designed for the truck!! OUCH!!
Not something I would do, for sure!
The tq rating "overhead" of the transmission relative to the tq output of the baby dmax is WAAAY to slim, IMHO. Even stock thats not much room to graw any power/tq without immediately being overstressed ad use in an overstressed output from its design.
Why would ANYONE reengineer an outdated 6 speed, NON HD, already weak transmission, for a one off, application, ESPECIALLY if the trucks were selling as well as they have as gasoline powered vehicles?? WHY! Thats just plain DUMB as rocks!
Actually, thats just TYPICAL GM and USA car manufacturer idiocy of the past I've watched my entire life (I'm 59 now)!! SOS, but this time, in a product I FINALLY had interest in enough to study up on it.
Why they lost me to DOdge (again) I have bought new a diesel 5 speed (manual) 2500 HD in 1996, and then again, same truck except 6 speed MANUAL, in 2004, except it was a 4 door. 1996 was the new (then) ext cab, fixed rear door model.
GREAT trucks. The 1996, I still use regularly as its got a 5th wheel gor gooseneck towing. Just replaced the original!! clutch pp and bearings this month with a HD unit, after 300,000+ miles of hd (ie hard, but as designed) use in my construction company. at least 1/2 has been towing a trailer, loaded. & which has had NO issues, EVER, PERIOD.

Business partners and associates ordered/owned same trucks,but automatic tranny's, ALL have spent MAJOR $$ rebuilding, and inmost cases, reengineering their transmissions to hold up to the trucks engine and capabilities, after the stock transmissions greneded, REPEATEDLY, every 80-100,000 miles or so.

Thats a STANDARD, HD automatic, used in many vehicles, cars and trucks, that can be found and bought at scrapyards, and rebuilt from ebay etc. expensive but doable for $4-6000.00 (plus labor, of course).

This autotransmission, has the antivibe dohickey in it. NO OTHER TRANSMISSION has EVER had this device installed in it. Sooo, how available are used ones? How about REBUILT ones?
How much does your local stealership gonna charge to r and r a new one for you? 1/2 the trucks cost new? 1/3? between the two? most likely.
That, and not being able to buy it in an ext cab, manual transmission, vinly floored (easy to clean/hose out when muddy jobs are worked).
Fix this issue(s) and I'll buy 2 to start... Otherwise waiting on Nissan Frontier manual diesel ASAP. (Or Hyundai, if a work truck optionis made)...
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I have the Diesel... I love it so far.

Yes... It has 181 HP but It comes with 370 ft lbs of torque as well.
They also sell a programmer that will boost it to over 250 hp & 450 ft lbs. (that's big numbers)

I posted a video of the Diesel Colorado vs the Gas Colorado... The diesel won in the end. Yes it lost in the 1/4 mile barely, but if you listen to them, they said adding a trailer to them and running the 1/4 again and the diesel would totally destroy the gas Colorado.

If there is anything negative I could say about the diesel Colorado/Canyon is the price... The are pricey and there's rarely any rebates on them, because people are loving them and they are selling like hotcakes. You CAN however find them with dealership rebates sometimes.
I got mine and the and the dealership had it "TAGGED" marked down to $38,000. They also gave me a military discount and I had them take off a few things that was like $500 here and $500 there. It brought the price down to to around $35,000, and after my trade in (and tax and licensing) I financed around $25K

I will also say that there are a few other things they are lacking. Like a powered rear glass, Sunroof and AC seats. Just a few things I like.

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Mine was a tag also 36000 and man I love this truck I'm getting 23 mpg with a lift and rides sooooo good
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Mine was a tag also 36000 and man I love this truck I'm getting 23 mpg with a lift and rides sooooo good
They really do ride smooth... It's truly probably the smoothest riding truck I have ever owned.
(and let me assure you... I have owned TONS of trucks, Jeeps and suv's)
Well Thomas made quite a long winded post (his first and only post, I might add) with the intention of helping talk the op out of these trucks. The only reason his dodge wasn't a turd is because it didn't have an automatic trans. Apples to oranges.

Back to the topic at hand, the 6l50 is used in many, many applications. Cts, vette, and camaros use them. shouldn't cost you an arm and a leg to rebuild, and should give long life before that is even necessary. Transmissions are simple Internally. Parts kits are available all over the internet. Sure, it has a fancy torque converter to balance out the shakey 4 banger diesel but didn't scare me away.

Best midsize truck by far, imo. If you want a small truck that can do 1/2 ton work and get good mpg then this is the one to get.
They really do ride smooth... It's truly probably the smoothest riding truck I have ever owned.
(and let me assure you... I have owned TONS of trucks, Jeeps and suv's)
Well not to mention I see them working all over the place... Every O'reilly Auto Parts around me running them. ( for better mpg's I'm sure)
What do you consider "heavy duty work? Construction work??? The reason you don't see them much in construction work, is because most contractors need way more room for their tools.

I have seen several who pull trailers with all their tools in the trailer. So as far as heavy duty work, I think they are up to the job.
Most use full size trucks for the extra room in the beds. Of course if your going to pull bobcats and haul super heavy loads... You're dumb for not using a heavy duty 3500 Dually or something with the power to do work like that. ( 6.6 V8 turbo diesel VS 2.8 4 cyl turbo diesel )
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