Was wondering what everybody’s using for engine oil in their 2.8 turbo. I see it call for DEXOS 2. But doing some research they say in 25 it’s going to DEXOS D. I’m wondered if there’s any other brands that have this additive package? Thank you.
wow super clean!Here are some engine internals from an engine that's run a LOT of Rotella T6 5w-40. This has 150k miles. I'll stand by Rotella.
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Here are some engine internals from an engine that's run a LOT of Rotella T6 5w-40. This has 150k miles. I'll stand by Rotella.
Why was it torn down?
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This marks on the cylinder walls are the original cross hatching. I ordered new pistons from Australia that came with wrist pins. The unexpected part of this teardown was how clean everything was. I was quite impressed, since this is an emissions intact diesel. Other than that, no surprises. Even the oil pump looked like it had never seen debris.Big job. Thanks for sharing these photos. Looks pretty darn clean. Main bearing looks like it's new... Are those honing marks in the cylinder or a spiral shop towel wipe? Are you going to check/NDE your wrist pins? Have you found anything unexpected?
Post #20 in this thread.Sorry T, civilian here. Would you please expand on why you tore this engine apart.? Not a "gotcha". Just want to know more....
Thx DD. Must have been a drag to risk all of that good hardware on malwork..Post #20 in this thread.
More info in the thread over on Colorado Fans, but the short of it is the cam sprocket slipped on the cam because it wasn't properly retightened after replacing the timing belt.
There's a ProVent 200 catch can on this engine, although it hasn't been installed all that long. Turbo inlet looked relatively clean, intake manifold - not so much. Also just a note, I've always run WIX filters on everything. Oil, fuel, air.WOW. I agree. That Post #24 photo is amazing; sure supports your Rotella comment and good filtration. Is there a catch can on this engine? How clean was the turbo inlet? This gives me hope for longer engine life. Thanks for the update.
How can you tell if the intake is clean or plugged up without taking it off? Thank you.There's a ProVent 200 catch can on this engine, although it hasn't been installed all that long. Turbo inlet looked relatively clean, intake manifold - not so much. Also just a note, I've always run WIX filters on everything. Oil, fuel, air.
A good indicator is to pull the MAP sensor in the intake. That is almost always dirty. Use MAF cleaner and a soft brush to clean. Do not use brake or carb cleaner. It would take quite a bit of soot to plug the intake completely. If you're doing some other major work, it's worth removing and cleaning the intake, EGR system, and throttle body.How can you tell if the intake is clean or plugged up without taking it off? Thank you.
OK yeah I’ve heard about cleaning that maf sensor. I’m wondering if anybody’s use that GDE compliant tune and seeing how much soot builds up on that sensor after about 25,000 miles with the tune. Be interested to see how much cleaner it would be.A good indicator is to pull the MAP sensor in the intake. That is almost always dirty. Use MAF cleaner and a soft brush to clean. Do not use brake or carb cleaner. It would take quite a bit of soot to plug the intake completely. If you're doing some other major work, it's worth removing and cleaning the intake, EGR system, and throttle body.
How can you tell if the intake is clean or plugged up without taking it off? Thank you.
My MAP sensor was nasty the first time I pulled it while running the stock tune, this was about 1.5 years after I bought the truck new so 20-25k miles.A good indicator is to pull the MAP sensor in the intake. That is almost always dirty. Use MAF cleaner and a soft brush to clean. Do not use brake or carb cleaner. It would take quite a bit of soot to plug the intake completely. If you're doing some other major work, it's worth removing and cleaning the intake, EGR system, and throttle body.
I've been running the GDE EPA-compliant tune for 40+k miles, I cleaned the MAP sensor when I flashed the tune and I haven't had to clean it since.OK yeah I’ve heard about cleaning that maf sensor. I’m wondering if anybody’s use that GDE compliant tune and seeing how much soot builds up on that sensor after about 25,000 miles with the tune. Be interested to see how much cleaner it would be.
so the map sensor is the one that is the most important to clean. Is that correct? And with all the miles you’ve put on the emission tune it stays real clean now the intake and the map sensor.? Thank you. If I understand you correctly, it makes a big difference with the GDE compliance tune.I've been running the GDE EPA-compliant tune for 40+k miles, I cleaned the MAP sensor when I flashed the tune and I haven't had to clean it since.
Our trucks have both MAF and MAP sensors, the MAF sensor is at the airbox, the MAP sensor is in the intake manifold just rear of where the EGR outlet is. You have to remove the engine cover and some foam to get to the MAP sensor.
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Correct, the MAF sensor shouldn't ever need to be cleaned as long as you don't run a crappy, oiled air filter like a K&N. The MAP sensor in the intake is the one that needs to be checked/cleaned as that is how the computer knows how much boost is being made and if the sensor isn't able to react correctly then it can cause some weird performance issues.so the map sensor is the one that is the most important to clean. Is that correct? And with all the miles you’ve put on the emission tune it stays real clean now the intake and the map sensor.? Thank you. If I understand you correctly, it makes a big difference with the GDE compliance tune.
Is that the oil that you use? I see it’s not a match to doxos 2🤷🏻♂️
dexos 2 ash content oil is .8% or lower. rotella ash content is 1.0%. its a little higher in ash which technically will clog your dpf filter sooner. but that also depends on if your truck burns no oil or a lot of oil. the rotella 5w-40 seems to protect the engine a little better than a 5w-30 oil. i myself use amsoil 5w-30 diesel oil. its not dexos certified but is within dexos approved ash levels. amsoil would have to pay for the dexos 2 label and release its oil formula to get the approved sticker to which they said nope.Is that the oil that you use? I see it’s not a match to doxos 2🤷🏻♂️
thats quite the adventure going that far. fuel dilution has been minimal with that many miles on it? impressive.Went 20k mi before the next oil change. Tested the oil every 5k mi at blackstone labs. Tests show everything was in line, and showed I could go longer on the oil.
So now I'm 15k mi on the current fill. Tests show everything is solid, and good to keep going. So I'll probably push this batch out to 30k mi before I change it.
I can post all of the results to prove that I'm not bull sh!tting if need be.
I've been using Rotella-T6 0W/40 or 5W/40 for the last 3 years with no problems. In fact, I get a little better mileage, and the engine is much quieter, and just runs smoother. I also have a great CCV or catch can system on it as well as a low micron bypass filter system. Photos of my system can be found on this website.dexos 2 ash content oil is .8% or lower. rotella ash content is 1.0%. its a little higher in ash which technically will clog your dpf filter sooner. but that also depends on if your truck burns no oil or a lot of oil. the rotella 5w-40 seems to protect the engine a little better than a 5w-30 oil. i myself use amsoil 5w-30 diesel oil. its not dexos certified but is within dexos approved ash levels. amsoil would have to pay for the dexos 2 label and release its oil formula to get the approved sticker to which they said nope.
nice! i would have thought the heavier oil would decrease mileage.I've been using Rotella-T6 0W/40 or 5W/40 for the last 3 years with no problems. In fact, I get a little better mileage, and the engine is much quieter, and just runs smoother. I also have a great CCV or catch can system on it as well as a low micron bypass filter system. Photos of my system can be found on this website.